Mary Pasciak: Licata: I don't share the concern of the conflict of interest. I think the interest is in providing best opportunity for the kids in the classroom. I think Cascade/Say Yes is committed to finding the best candidate. I don't agree with the perception they're just going to select the superintendent for us. If we don't have a superintendent who's willing to work with Say Yes, we're really hampering the effort at the start. Mary Pasciak: Licata: By working with Say Yes, they can find a superintendent with the temperament. One of the thigns they said, you hire for skill but fire for temperament. They were the only firm that was going to take a measure of candidates' temperament.